Monday, May 14, 2007

F1 in singapore

We think that the building of F1 track in singapore is beneficial to singapore economic.F1 brings in big money for car manufacturers and their host countries. The Singapore Tourism Board (STB) has been actively looking at the development of a motorsports event in Singapore. As part of this effort, STB has engaged in various dialogues with experts in the motor-racing industry and motorsports associations, on the feasibility, the scope and the potential of hosting such motorsports events here that would be consistent with our profile as an exciting destination. After all, Formula 1 is estimated to draw in the biggest viewership figures after the football World Cup, the Euro football championships and the Olympics.The plus point is that F1 is not held once every four years, but takes place every fortnight and now has 19 races on its annual calendar.Let's hope more parties will rev alongside the STB as it looks at how Formula One can be brought to Singapore.

75 comments:

-alvin- said...
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-alvin- said...

Okie, F1 will bring in money for singapore but what about the safety concerns of the members of the public?

The race is being held at night and the race cars are not required to have headlights, in adition it is being held in a very congested road during the day. If any accidents do happen to the venue, it will cripple our aready congested road along that area, and even more money will be lost from singapore's normal business life.

Wei hao said...

of couse the government will make enough safety precaution if they wan to have race in singapore.
Races might not be held at night.. if it is, there will sure be enough lights for those driver to see to ensure that accident is reduce to the minimum..

Wei hao said...

top post is by me , wei hao =D

-alvin- said...

Then in this case, don't u think that the government will be causing more trouble by having a race in the morning/afternoon, where people goes to work there?

Imagine that amount of traffic having to get diverted into other small lanes due to the road blocks. Workers that work will then have to leave their house early to avoid being late.

ubaidul Fikri said...

i agree with what Alvin said. Whenever theres a race going on, it will cause a lot of trouble to the motorist as they need to use another alternative ways to get to their destination.Bear in mind that Singapore is a small country so when all the motorist avoid the race area and headed to same alternative road they will cause a disasterious traffic jam!

ubaidul Fikri said...

I disagree F1 in Singapore!! we all know that F1 sports emits tonnes of greenhouse gases to the air.This makes singapore to be more polluted and will no longer called a green city.

When theres more and more race,eventually singapore will become like indonesia carrying smog and causes lots of harmful effects to not only their own people but also to the neighbouring countries.

We also know that fossil fuel is a non-renewable source.So why are they wasting tonnes of fuel for F1 cars?!Dont you all think its a waste?The government itself educates the peole to conserve energy bt they themselves agree to the F1.

Wei hao said...

of cox the governement will built a alternative route for people to use when ther is a race going on.. so i dun think that there will be a prob in traffic jam..

its true that f1 will emits greenhouse gases.. and its will be a waste of fuels.. but u see.. how much money will they earn from each race? how much more tourist will be attracted to singapore to view races? there will sure be alot of benefit to singapore's economic which will be more important than those green house gases.. u know..

wei hao

-alvin- said...

What do u mean by alternative route?
That area seemed too small to me to for the government to 'pop up' another road for members of the public to use.


In that case, this money thing will be a short-term thing. Why do u want to spend thousands of money overseas to see nothing but fog/smog in the future due to these pollution.


earning money at the expense of the environment. Not a good thing. In the long run, singapore will start losing money from the fall of tourism.

shifuathome said...

i agree that what fikri say about the effect of educating the kids about the bad effects of green house effect and the government is doing it. and ask the kid to conserves this and that . recently still promote the less use of plastic, what Singaporeans will think of the government?

shifuathome said...

i am shifu

shifuathome said...

according to what alvin say, i think that singapore have a good transport system. and can be said to be the best so there would be another alternate route as what wei hao had said before , singapore goverment have good planning and we should trust them

shifuathome said...

and as what alvin had said that the Singapore business will decreased.but i think they will not be affected and instead it will be increased greatly as there will a lot of people spending in Singapore and plus the thing they eat , drink and accommodation. and congestion is not a major factor , we have a good transport system

-alvin- said...

yup, that will be the short-term result when the races starts. It will not be so when singapore becomes polluted and we see haze around us where tourism can see nothing but grey stuffs everywhere they look outside their hotel window.


i agree with shifu to a small extent that singapore have a good transport system. however, i feel our roads are very crowded, and what the government does is just to raise the ERP which does not really seemed to be effective.

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jiawei said...

I don't really support the F1 races held in Singapore. Indead it will raise a lot of revune for Singapore but that is during the race. Before the race, there will be a lot of problems to solve. An example will be the cost matter. If the goverment does not have enough money what do you think will happen? Our 'heavy' tax will rise again. And after the race, what will the goverment give back to those who have finical problem and contribute quite a lot for the race? I doubt anything.

chenjuan said...

I think it is good to have F1 in singapore because it benifits singapore by bring in more tourist and thus improve our economy.
Concerning about the safety, i agree to what wei hao had said, the gorvernment will make enough safety precaution to ensure accident being reduce to minimum

chenjuan said...
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chenjuan said...

Concerning about the greenhouse effect, i think it is inevitable because no matter we have F1 or not, greenhouse gases will still be emitted by other transportations and factories.
If there is really a very significant increase in greenhouse gases, i think the government will do something to it. Maybe they can held it once a month instead of every 2 week.

Xavier said...

i do not agree with the post. firstly, singapore has a shortage of land space, which means, the race will have to be conducted on the public roads of singapore. knowing that in singapore, one road could be the only entry to another place, the closure in such a case will have dampening effects on the responsibility of the government. secondly, the roads in singapore are not fitted with the appropriate safety equipment to reduce the damage done to the drivers in the race cars in a case of an accident.

chengsiang said...

I feel that the F1 can bring to Singapore many benefits. It’s a event that the world is watching and it will draw attention to the way Singaporean organize event. If this F1 race is successful, many other world competitions might be held in Singapore. Like Singapore had a dream of organizing the World Cup. As if we are not bold enough to try out new things, we will always remain where we are. Stagnant and never improving

jiawei said...

i did not agree with what chenjuan said when she mention about the green house gases being 'inevitable' if every country thinks that way. The world will be a terible place to live in. Every country has a part to play in keeping the world a healty place to live in. the gases emited by factory cound not be stopped as the factory had to produce aomething for the people. However the gases emited by those F1 cars are unnecessary and could be reduced.

-alvin- said...

yes. i disagree with chenjuan statment that wether we have F1 or not, the gas will still be produced.


Thou we cannot stop this production, we can go our part in helping the environment by reducing it.

Earth day is not a once a year thing. IT should be a everyday event.

jing wei said...

y is everyone worrying about the amount of greenhouse gas coming out from a few F1 cars? comparing the amount of pollution from the landfill, this is peanuts and i think we should worry more on cutting our waste output than gas from some F1 cars.
Beside drivers are told to stay off the road at nite- meaning no greenhouse gas from them.

-alvin- said...

So why don't u give me 1 cent everyday since 1 cent is 'peanuts' compared to 1 million?

Things start small. Ranging from business to even plane crash. A loose screw somewhere will cause the plane not to be air-worthly to fly, can [b]cause hundreds of lives to be lost[/b]


Also, what makes you think that the 'gas' comming out from these F1 cars are not considered as 'waste' as u posted. Are they in anyway useful to you?

And to add on, those cars not being able to use the 'race track' will have to be diverted to some other smaller lanes. I feel this will not cut down on the gas emitted as drivers might need to travel further, face many bottle-neck traffic jams and thus, producing more gas.

Xavier said...

the main issue to F1 in singapore, is not the point of too much greenhouse gases being emitted, but instead, is singapore really suited for such an idea?w

jing wei said...

Ok, lets look at this problem this way. How many cars are there in S'pore zooming around each day? 10000- 20000. How many F1 cars are usually permitted to race? 30. Many F1 races are they ging to host each race year? 1-2. How long does each race lasts. 1-2hr. So how much pollution can 30 cars create in 1-2hr? Peanuts compare to 10000 cars zooming aroung s'pore each day! If uall hate greenhouse gas so much, i suggest petitioning the government to impose 1/2 day driving ban each year. That make more economic sense that disallowing F1 just because of the greenhouse gas created.

Besides the races are suppose to be held late at night, i dun think that many ppl drive at night. Surely not enough to create bottle-neck traffic jam.

Peiwen said...

Okay..$0.01x365x100(let's say you are lucky enough to live till a hundred.) = $365. Totally insignificant, I'm sure everyone would take the million.

Sure. Gas coming out from these f1 cars arent useful but these 22 f1 cars sure produce less waste gas than a few hundred cars on the 5.2 km circuit for a few hours.

Since f1 in Singapore would be such a big event, I'm positive that the Singaporeans would avoid driving there and instead take the public transport which results in less gas emitted.

MUNEER said...

yes i agree that F1 will bring in money for singapore by attracting tourist.But it faces strong competition from petronas F1 race in malaysia.
F1 race will also increase the number of illegal bookies

Peiwen said...

Acually the competition from the Malaysian f1 race isn't much of a threat because Singapore might be the first night race in the history of f1. So it will be more special than the Malaysian circuit because its just racing in a circuit in the day.

Xavier said...

No one ever said F1 in singapore would be a big event and with the lives of singaporeans, i doubt they will even bother wanting to use more time to get to their destination through the public transport, jus to save the earth some temperature.

jing wei said...

Even if this isn't going to be a big event. It make good economic sense to the government. Just Point where they r going to race, get the ppl outta the way, invite the F1 ppl, and tax em! Imagine how many million of ppl tune their TV to watch a race. The government is going to earn alot.

Wei hao said...

tax increase? haha.. i dun think so.. having f1 races in singapore will inprove singapore's economic.. meaning singapore will earn money... wat for increase tax?
of cox there are bad part which is pollution to the air.. but if it can make singapore to be a higher ' grade' y not? after all there are already alot pollution everywhere..

wei hao

Wei hao said...

abt the land shortage.. its true that singapore is very small and if a race is held... alot things will be 'jammed'.. but.. if a f1 race is held.. it will be a BIG event in singapore... which almost every citizen will be concerned.. so does it matters for the few hours or 1/2 a day when those road is blocked?

wei hao

MUNEER said...

yes, i agree that singapore will be the first night race in history. since singaporeans are known to be kiasu, they will stand very clsoe to the circuit. what if the driver of the f1 misses his turn? there would be a huge accident.

Peiwen said...

Singaporeans wont be "Kiasu" because at the same time, they are "Kiasi" so I'm sure they wont do anything foolish. There will be security staff members to manage the crowd too.

Xavier said...

but when an accident happens, do you think those security staff might be able to block the cars from hitting those spectators? i doubt so.

jiawei said...

i agree with xaiver when he said that even the security officers could not stop an accident from happening. Singapore is unlike other big country where there is plenty of land for them to have a safe distance where the spectator could stand. Thereore i think that the land in Singapore is unsuitable for racing

NUBE said...

All my knowledge about car racing was earned from the arcade game “Daytano”, when I was around 7 years old, so please correct me if I am wrong.

Yes, I agree that every thing has its pros and cons, and this too implies to F1. Blame me Wei Hao, I don’t agree with everything you have said about pollution. Although money can buy almost everything on Earth, but remember 1 thing, THERE IS ONLY 1 EARTH IN THE UNIVERSE! What’s so great about the few little tourists when we will become extinct? I suppose that the tourists being attracted are only here for the race and not big spenders who can really BOOST our economic after taking so many risks. No tax increase? I don’t think so, as the government needs the money to build the roads and other stuff before we can earn any money.

NUBE said...

The only factor which makes me agree with F1 is tough competition by China. In order to succeed, everything has to be planned ahead. We will also have to come out with good and new ideas that will effectively attract tourists in order to boost our economic.

“No choice, because we have to remain COMPETITIVE”

I guess that will be the answer of the government if you tell him something about green house effect.

NUBE said...

I will say that F1 is a good try, so does anyone has a better idea than this?

From the angle of politics, I agree with F1 as it will bring more tourists to Singapore. And it can be considered a new and creative move by Singapore as it is something fresh.

However, after considering the pros and cons, I have decided to disagree with it. As mentioned by most of the classmates, the disadvantages outweighed the benefits F1 will bring us. The problems range from air pollution to land constrain. In conclusion, I personally think that F1 is good idea to boost economic, but not in Singapore. F1 will form a sharp contrast with our “Garden City” reputation. But of course, we do have different opinions; no body is a 100% correct when we argue about sensitive topics like politics as there are too many pros and cons for as to concern, take note and measure.

andy

-alvin- said...

regarding to the topic about security officers.

That is why i said in the first post that if a accident do occur, not only lives lost, the road being used by the race track might be deem as unusable in the day by public. Even some buses might need to divert.


IT will seriously cause much inconvience if such accidence do occur.

fairuz said...

Group 4 - you need to state your full question in the header! Also post your articles -where are they?

fairuz said...

post your name - who is nube? andy?

fairuz said...

Interesting comments but seem to have diverted from the real issue. How is F1 relevant/beneficial for Spore? Besides being competitive, more interesting city to live in/visit, more economic benefits, you have mentioned environmental issues too - what else?

Some have mentioned about safety issues - sure accidents happen but the govt/organisers will take precautions and be kiasu about this, so what other matters/issues/angles are there to this topic?

Unknown said...

firstly the greenhouse gas thing, its rubiish. whether u hav it in sg anot it will still be produceed jus that it will be in anoher counrty.

Unknown said...

the hostin of F1 in Sg will cause tension btween Sg and My. My has said that it hopes Sg will not compete wif them to host the F1. with Sg hostin the F1, My will defeinitly be unhappy. therefore this is 1 of the reasons y Sg shud not host F1 in Sg. however on the other hand, like what some had said, hotsin of the F! will bring in money.

chenjuan said...

F1has become world's most-watched sporting spectacle after football and it is currently worth US$2.8 billion ($4.5 billion). Despite huge hosting fees that can rise to US$40 million, Bahrain and Malaysia reported earlier this year that Formula 1 pumps more than US$100 million into their coffers each race weekend.

It is an expensive proposition but can bring good returns on investment for the country, if done properly.

i think with F1 in singapore it will really help to boost singapore's economy .

MUNEER said...

yes i agree there will security staff. but they are not super heros. they cant revent accidents.

however,F1 racing in singpore is an expensive proposition but can bring good returns on investment for the country, if done properly."

David said...

hmmm.. is true that F1 can bring good return is really done properly and almost perfect.. we said is good but it is not that easy to organise a new so called sports in singapore like this perfectly.. and just like muneer said, the security staff cannot prevent and accident to happen.. for example you are a racer in F1.. accident can happen easily during each race if the machine do not "obey" you.. and you are willing to risk your own health or even life just to make singapore has good returns?? will singapore be thankful to you?? you think this is worth the price?

Unknown said...

dont talk about staring F1 in S'pore first.. before we can have this kind of car race, we need to have factories thatcan maintain, repair and store these cars. not one small area but a big one and maybe a few.. Singapore is a small land as compare to other countries. just by that track needs a big space and it surely needs aduience stand if not why have it. if watch on tv then must well watch other countries races.. to have that race, it needs the tracks.. the have the competition, it needs the aduience.. all this lead to one another. its not so easy build the track then build. there's still alot to considerate.. just like where are they going to stay temporary, the drivers and family, their friends and so on.. the hotels we have may or may not be enough.. there other tourists coming S'pore for other purposes. so more hotels needed. see, just the resource can cause alot of problems and things to discuss..

-alvin- said...

Yes i agree with sean. We have alot of things to consider. Even if we can settle those problems he mentioned, is the track itself that is going to be used suitable for the race. It is said to be too rough.

Does this means that it will increase the chances of accidents? Could the driver who can usually corner this bend at this speed fails due to some uneven-ness on the road?

fairuz said...

where are the articles?

fairuz said...

Hermann - no slang/short forms and Singlish - use Standard English!

Chen Juan - good comments!

Alvin & Sean - good analyses.

David said...

but now we can't say about the the track all that.. just as sean has said.. we don't even have the space to start F1.. the track alone used up up the biggest amount of space.. not including the seats for the spectators to watch.. so add together.. will be a unbelievable huge area.. singapore is a small country with limited lands.. so i don't think having F1 in singapore is not a very good idea.

Unknown said...

SORRY! i will type standard english. sean, i agree fully with u. with out the shops and mechanics to repair and maintain the car is very important. if not, the F1 in singapore will not last, as the racers cant have a proper car to race.

ubaidul Fikri said...

I disagree with hermann saying that racers dont have proper cars to race.What i noe is that every country will have their own cars. so this means that they have their own car mechanics,engineers etc. What spore need to provide them is a proper space where they can put all their cars ,tools,etc.

Ok again talkin abt space, do u think spore hav sufficent space for all the racers frm other countries to so called to put all their stuffs??Even though the space will be used only durin the racin period bt it is still necessary for spore to bulid a specific place for them.

So wat will the gorvernment do? Clear all the remainin 'forest' we hav??

David said...

i agree with fikri's point... we don't have much land already in singapore.. clearing the remaining "forest" just to make a space or land just for F1?? that is really not worth the price..

Xavier said...

yea, i agree with alvin. is really changing the roads, clearing the forest and spending more for F1 in singapore, really worth the money even with careful planning.

Unknown said...

the forest we had are already decreasing.. while S'pore was always name as a "green" country.. it was one reason why tourists wanted to come into this country. so clearing the forests, will it affect the tourists coming..

Unknown said...

(note: 1st pst for this blog)

from my point of view i feel that it is a good idea. of course there will be problem in the beginning but the profits are high. more tourist wil come to singapore and this will boost singapore economy.

Unknown said...

i disagree with david and fikri comment.why clear forests when there is another solution. land reclamation. already presently many of singapore lands are reclaim land. im sure that the government would have thought about it.

Unknown said...

Formula One, abbreviated to F1, and also known as Grand Prix racing, is the highest class of auto racing defined by the Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile (FIA), motor sport's world governing body. The "formula" in the name is a set of rules which all participants and cars must meet. The F1 world championship season consists of a series of races, known as Grands Prix, held usually on purpose-built circuits, and in a few cases on closed city streets. The results of each race are combined to determine two annual World Championships, one for drivers and one for constructors.
It is a massive television event, with millions of people watching each race in 200 countries. The performance of the cars is highly dependent on electronics, aerodynamics, suspension and tyres.

thus, more jobs could be created by having f1 in singapore.it will also increase singapore's recognition as f1 racing is viewed by a large number of people in different countries, thus increasing tourism and singapore's economy. it doesn't post muchof a pollution. in conclusion , to me, building a f1 track in singapore is a great idea.

Unknown said...

I wonder what the gvt are thinking, so many major projects for them the IR's and F1. can they hanlde?

chengsiang said...

Probably after the F1, Singapore would have a proper platform for singaporean for racing, i feel that Why not? i mean, How many of us would like to have this new experience. I feel that we shouldnt be tied up by the land constraints we have. We have a population about 4 million. I feel that the government has done a good job in housing the huge population. Beside F1, some other racing competitions can be held in singapore.

Perharp the government would like to invest in the tourism area. I mean they are building new places of interest in singapore. Arent they?

chengsiang said...

F1 is also a test for Singapore. As, if we arent capable to organise such an event. I dont think we could do any more bigger event. I mean we did a good job at the international World bank meeting. controlling the riots effectly and stuff. so i feel that this event would put singapore to a higher level.

ubaidul Fikri said...

LAND RECLAIMATION?!
I dont think singapore hav anymore land to be reclaimed.

If they still wish to reclaim the land,there will surely be a big issue between Sngapore and malaysia fighting for land.

Don judge the book by its cover hermann.Although u think spore is jus a tiny mini dot in the worlds,u think they cant handle IRs n F1?If spore can build and maintain our airports, military defence...why cant they handle tis IRs n F1?

Unknown said...

yes, government will surely have no problem in handling all these.. and i think they will have another way to build this f1 race not by clearing our forests.

yewming said...

i think this shall be a good start for Singapore to start a F1 race in Singapore..it not only improves the economy of the country, it challenges Singapore to become even better.

yewming said...

Most importantly,this introduction of F1 race in Singapore is to bring tourists to our country..but i think the main concern about us is regarding the pollution matters..

yewming said...

[last post]

Since F1 race has been decided to hold in Singapore as one of the countries chosen,lets us first just wait and see how it will going to affect in Singapore..

Gilbert said...

It is a great advantage for singapore to start F1 however, in order for F1 to start, they need to block the road, so it will bring inconvenience to people.

Gilbert said...

Some people may be late for something important which will cause many problem such as losing a very important client.

Gilbert said...

With f1 in singapore, you will get to experience real life racing. People like me who love cars would find time to enjoy the race instead of seeing it on tv.

fairuz said...

Group 4 - i reminded you to post the whole question in full - no updates. What's happening - where are the articles too?